User blog:Bond em7/Dec 21st Admin Meeting Record

The following is a transcript of the meeting the Bcrat and Admins had on Dec 21st. Looks like we're planning on making a lot of changes, and I don't have the time to go through this right now and make it more readable, so if you would like to read it feel free, but sorry about the format.

Welcome to the Skyfall Aftermath Roleplay Wiki chat 8:24 Jiskran Hey, guys. 8:24 Bond em7 hey 8:29 Jiskran Can you give Jack an answer on DARP chat about Harry and Lucas, Bond? :D Lissyboo has joined the chat. 8:29 Jiskran Hi, Liss. 8:29 Bond em7 Hey Liss We're going to give Alyssa a few more minutes and hope she wasn't on an hour an a half ago waiting for us 8:30 Lissyboo Hiya o/ 8:30 Jiskran I dropped by a few times and didn't see her. 8:30 Lissyboo I have the same time as lyss and it's only 730 here 8:30 Bond em7 She may have been doing the same though That's why I hope she wasn't here at 6am :P 8:31 Jiskran Let's hope. 8:31 Lissyboo :p well while we wait I'm getting food 8:31 Jiskran I'm going to close DARP, as my system sometimes struggles with dual chat. :P 8:31 Bond em7 I am too actually I'll wait for Alyssa 8:33 Jiskran OK, I can stick around for hours. :) 8:34 Lissyboo I made Brownies yesterday. Marshmellow icing with peppermint candycane crushed and sprinkled. I shouldn't be allowed in the kitchen. 8:34 Bond em7 I can't :P I have about 3 hours max...got my brother-in-law's collage graduation this afternoon Oh...those sound amazing Lissy 8:37 Lissyboo They are amazing. It's likr heart attack food 8:37 Bond em7 NAh...I've had burgers much more heart attackish and wonderful but as far as sweets go, they sound awesome 8:39 Lissyboo :) She here yet? Lissyboo has left the chat. Lissyboo has joined the chat. 8:59 Jiskran No sign. :( 9:00 Bond em7 If you'd like I an tell you quys my thoughts, and we can go fom there and I promise I can type better 9:00 Lissyboo Lol Alyssa5582 has joined the chat. 9:02 Alyssa5582 (wave) 9:02 Bond em7 Sorry about the time confusion Alyssa 9:02 Lissyboo Lysssyyy! 9:03 Alyssa5582 It's alright. I tried to wake up earlier..that didn't work :p 9:03 Bond em7 Alright guys, so Peri can't make it, so let's jump right in ok? 9:04 Alyssa5582 Sounds good  :) 9:04 Bond em7 So, it seems to me that this last year at Hogwarts has been our worst one yet. Most classes didn't get taught, a lot of people left, and we haven't gotten many new users. Seems like our wiki might be in trouble. So...I was thinking that we need to do something. We have a couple options, but I think we'll have to do something pretty drastic reguardless. 9:05 Jiskran I fear so. 9:06 Bond em7 My thought is that we do a re-boot of sorts. I mean leave the active characters, but delete the rest, and focus this next school year on Hogwarts, Let the Ministry fall to the side unless needed for something, for our next event do something at Hogwarts...a Triwizard Championship or something else, and make being an Bcrat/admin prerequisite beaing a teacher at Hogwarts So scope our focus similar to the books...we know aurors from the books since they were at or mentioned at Hogwarts. Same with the Minister. Those characters can even be at Hogwarts for the competition and such. 9:07 Jiskran Depending on the number of subjects, we may need Rollbacks too. 9:08 Bond em7 I think we'll need more teachers than that yes, but I don't wat rollbacks to have to teach I want Bcrats/Admins to cover the essential subjects, and anything else that get's taught or not, fine So we know we have active members there to cover all the classes 9:08 Jiskran Ok. 9:09 Bond em7 9:09 Alyssa5582 Sounds like a good idea. 9:09 Bond em7 So....this will affect the whole wiki, and we probably need to look at how our current department setup will work or not for this, and change some department duties if eeded 9:10 Jiskran I was thinking maybe we should draw a thick black line between Hogwarts and the outside world, so users (by mutual consent and within PG-13 limits) could do pretty much what they liked with their adult chars, though risking the wrath of the Ministry if it's extreme. 9:10 Bond em7 What would be the change? That's kinda how it's supposed to be now ...but I see your point as students do ted to wander... 9:11 Lissyboo I'm thinking noy letting students out of campus at allm ?* 9:11 Jiskran That until the Aurors are called in, we'd know nothing - we wouldn't (IC) be patrolling pages. 9:12 Bond em7 about the outside you mean? 9:12 Jiskran Yeah. 9:12 Bond em7 I like the idea. I can station most of the current arors at Hogwarts and assume there's more OOC out doing the rest 9:12 Jiskran In their own homes witches and wizards would be free to abuse servants - and relatives. 9:13 Bond em7 cut back Ministry investigation...ad basically let evil start to grow 9:13 Jiskran In the books, Aurors only come in for repeatedly proven gross evil - not every infraction. 9:14 Bond em7 Alyssa...as Minister, any thoughts? 9:14 Alyssa5582 I think it's a good idea. We've been using the Aurors as police for everything, and aren't they really for dark wizards? 9:14 Bond em7 yup 9:15 Alyssa5582 So it makes more sense to do it this way. :) 9:15 Bond em7 the ministry is supposed to have other people for less things...like the misuse of muggle artifact office 9:15 Jiskran Agreed, but I think they should remain NPCs. 9:15 Bond em7 Agreed Alright...so for S&S department, I think things will mostly stay the same, except we might want to look at redoing the sorting forum questions 9:16 Lissyboo That way we could focus more on taking care of people like shadow - in the future, Morgan 9:16 Bond em7 ...and killing off all stores that aren't actively used Also, I think S&S should be doing the majority of the Ollivander's work. 9:16 Lissyboo Speaking of sorting - do you think we could do a sort of cleanup in sorting forums? 9:16 Jiskran OK. 9:17 Bond em7 Meaning what Lissy? 9:17 Alyssa5582 I say we just start fresh with the stores. Have another sign up for all of tem. (I think red said something about this to be in chat) 9:17 Bond em7 delete old sortings? 9:17 Lissyboo Exactly, bond 9:17 Bond em7 I think we should do that for all Departments Alyssa I'm just thinking about the changes that need to be made right now 9:17 Alyssa5582 I meant the actual stores, but yes all Departments should do that 9:17 Bond em7 Ah...agreed. I'll make sure to let Peri know all this. Alright, anything else for S&S? 9:18 Lissyboo One thing 9:18 Bond em7 ypu? yup? 9:19 Lissyboo We should probably list off things that would be considered exotic. There's a lot of confusion 9:19 Bond em7 Great idea...we'll clarify that in the new sorting forum 9:19 Jiskran I thing we may require some 'pressing need' standard for new stores. 9:20 Lissyboo And should there be an enforced character limit? 9:20 Bond em7 It's really hard to actibely inforde that 9:20 Lissyboo We could always try 9:20 Jiskran I believe if there is we may need a vault in which to store those who might be revived later. 9:20 Bond em7 ...but I think we should do a character reboot too. 9:21 Alyssa5582 Meaning? 9:21 Bond em7 have anyone mark the ative characters they want saved with a template, and the rest get deleted all characters up for adoption get deleted...anyone who's not active's characters get deleted start over in a sense 9:22 Alyssa5582 Alright 9:22 Bond em7 any thoughts or complaints on that? 9:23 Jiskran I assume the 'Preserved' tag will still be valid? 9:23 Lissyboo What about those people who are completely inactive -like soey and frejah etc 9:23 Bond em7 That's what I was thinking about using to save characters Jisk There characters go Lissy With pressing need we can always undelete pages 9:23 Jiskran We can always undelete if necessary, Liss. 9:24 Bond em7 and we'll save those who have had a large ipact...Jisk and I were talking about making a memorial page of sort to save those pages 9:24 Lissyboo Got it. And we can't go through everybody and delete them one by one- how do we batch delete? 9:24 Bond em7 RedBot 9:24 Lissyboo ? 9:24 Jiskran Red has a Bot which can do that. 9:24 Bond em7 Peri made a bot a while ago to do batch changes like this 9:24 Jiskran Based on HoR's. 9:25 Lissyboo Ooh okay good ^_^ 9:25 Bond em7 Alright....so if there's nothing else for S&S, let's move to Act Imp Obviously you'll need to start thinking about what sort of event you want to run at Hogwarts. Something from the books, or something new? ...and we'll need to reorginize the depts so you have help and aren't doing it al yourself 9:27 Alyssa5582 Mhmm 9:28 Bond em7 The Ministry and Minister herself will be very useful for gettig this orginized and moving. Feel free to call upon any Ministry personel you need Any thoughts about that yet, or is that for a seperate meeting...possibly a department meeting? Alyssa5582 Probably a department meeting. 9:29 Lissyboo Before we have meeting, we need people. Do you mind if I bring up the administration needs? Welcome to the Skyfall Aftermath Roleplay Wiki chat 9:30 Alyssa5582 I dont have a lot of ideas yet, and as lissy said, I dont have much of a department to help me out. 9:30 Bond em7 Sure. I know we need promotions, but I wanted to get all this ironed out first 9:30 Jiskran As in 'we need Admins' LD. :D 9:30 Bond em7 Hold for a sec on that Lissy 9:30 Lissyboo yessir 9:30 Bond em7 so...anything else for Act Imp off the top of anyone's head? 9:31 Lissyboo What's our next event going to be? 9:31 Bond em7 Dont' know yet 9:32 Alyssa5582 Im thinking probably some sort of tournament, but I dont know specifics or anything 9:32 Bond em7 My idea of sechdule is we take a couple weeks to get everything set up and do all the work needed, then start the next shool year, and the event shortly after Alright...so for User Relations and OOC that we combine them into one. 9:34 Lissyboo Combined departments? 9:35 Bond em7 Right now there doing the same things...and what's the point in having 2 depts doing the same thing? 9:35 Jiskran Well, User Relations has only been a part of OOC, de facto. 9:36 Lissyboo So would you and jisk be working side by side for that dpt? 9:36 Bond em7 Nah...if Jisk can't run his own, he'll have to work under me. :P Or he can have it, and I'll just be promoted to dictator :P 9:37 Alyssa5582 That's my job! 9:37 Lissyboo Lol, dictator sounds nice :p 9:37 Bond em7 Realisticly yes, we'll be working on similar things, basically making new users feel welcome, helping them get bubbles set up and such, and providing event support. I'll probbaly do more of the event support and Jisk new users stuff, but that depends on how much work is where I also do have Hogwarts to run :P 9:38 Lissyboo This also means we could easily cut out some of the numbers in the admin team 9:38 Bond em7 Right...which cosidering our current amount of admins and RBs...I feel we need we'll get to that in a minute though. Any other thoughts on combining the departments? ...and do we need support or departments needed that currently don't exsist 9:40 Jiskran I think we need to draw up lists of 'definitely lost' and 'AWOL' so we know who we're talking about for the holes in our fabric. 9:41 Bond em7 I can add that to the Admin Status page 9:41 Lissyboo I doubt we could find one butshould we find a way to keep people active? 9:42 Bond em7 I think our best shot is making it interesting. I think people are leaving now because things are stale/bored and inactive admins/teachers makes inactive users More students at Hogwarts will make it more interesting too Student/House rivalry can keep things fun Alright...so let's talk about admin stuff now. I'm thinking 4 crats, 4 admins and 6 RB's. 9:44 Alyssa5582 I think we just need tons of things to do at Hogwarts. Events, maybe get active clubs going in it, stuff like that Sorry, continue :p 9:44 Jiskran OK, but, in case (let's hope not, but in case) you fall ill again Bond, I think the ability of the Deputy Heads to step in has to be clearly defined, along with a timeline. 9:44 Bond em7 I agree Alyssa...but most of those things should be led by students I think a week Jisk If a crat is inactive (no posts) for a week, the admin (2nd in command) steps in to take their duties until they return. Same for Headmaster/Deputies 9:45 Jiskran OK, and what about that cover system we set up for core subjects a few school years ago, where Admins/Bcrats would monitor a core subject and step in if necessary? 9:46 Bond em7 I think each Bcrat should be teaching a core class anyway, and if they don't post for a week another Crat or admin should step up to cover 9:47 Jiskran We'll really struggle with Potions without Frejah - her knowledge was encyclopaedic. 9:47 Bond em7 YEah.... *sigh* 9:47 Alyssa5582 :( 9:47 Lissyboo :( :( 9:47 Bond em7 We'll also need some new heads of House...I'm thikning Crats/admins take those duties as well 9:48 Jiskran I fear we need that security - the question is, who will be the Admins? 9:48 Alyssa5582 Can I keep mine..:p 9:48 Bond em7 If you like. 9:48 Alyssa5582 :p 9:48 Jiskran You're a Crat, Alyssa.  :P 9:48 Bond em7 That's the next question. I haven't looked...do we have any nominations for admins? we need 3 9:49 Lissyboo I had put a list of who should be admins from the rbs on red's page mads, lilly and rabbit 9:49 Jiskran It's difficult, hard to see anyone who's been around a while and is mature and responsible. Rabbit's out of the pic till mid-Jan.  :( 9:49 Bond em7 I agree Lissy...but Rabbit didn't want it last time 9:49 Alyssa5582 I think Rabbit would be excellent, but she wont be back until halfway through Jan 9:50 Jiskran She's interested this time, though. 9:50 Bond em7 ok...then I'm ok with putting those 3 names up for a vote. Any thoughts on any of them, or reason they shouldn't be promoted? 9:51 Lissyboo And we'd need rbs too 9:51 Alyssa5582 So perhaps, when she returns? 9:51 Bond em7 Yup...but let's finish with admins first if she wants it, I'm fine promoting her, now for when she comes back. y guess would be mid Jan is when we'll actually be starting the next school year and getting things going 9:51 Jiskran Lilly may need a mentor, just to make sure power doesn't go to her head. 9:52 Bond em7 How about Lissy :P 9:52 Jiskran Lead - blind - blind (reconfigure as a sentence) :P 9:52 Bond em7 lol 9:52 Lissyboo Sorry lag 9:52 Bond em7 Anyway, the crat they're working under will be their mentor of Sorts Lissy, any preference sor who you're working with? 9:53 Lissyboo Waitwhowhat For bcrat? Red 9:54 Bond em7 Each Admin will be working under a crat in the same dept and cover for the crat if they go inactive you want Peri? Ok... S&S? 9:54 Lissyboo She already asked me to be her second anyways 9:54 Bond em7 sounds good I'm thinking Rabbitty and Jisk So Alyssa, who would you prefer? Lilly or Madeye? 9:55 Alyssa5582 Lilly. She is always bringing me ideas and such for events 9:55 Bond em7 Cool, For RB's I was going to post a notice for people to nominate themselves, and any crat/admin can nominiate someone on that page, so we can take care of that outside this meeting. Everyon ok with that? 9:57 Jiskran Can we encourage some people, without actively discouraging others? 9:57 Lissyboo I have like fivr nominations 9:57 Bond em7 Sure then it'll be a community vote So...I think I've gotten all my big ideas out for this meeting. Is there anything else I missed, or things we need to deal with that these changes won't fix for us or affect? 9:59 Jiskran I think we definitely would benefit from giving Prefects more clear defined roles and greater responsibility. 9:59 Lissyboo Can I suggest something 10:00 Bond em7 Agreed Jisk...I'll do tat for the Head Boy/Girl and prefects. Yes Lissy? Lissyboo has left the chat. 10:02 Bond em7 Jisk if you have specific ideas for the prefects, let mw know in an owl that way I'll have a record for when I forget 10:03 Jiskran Right. 10:03 Bond em7 Alyssa...anything from you while we wait for Lissy? Lissyboo has joined the chat. 10:03 Lissyboo Thia freaking phone 10:03 Alyssa5582 I don't have anything of the top of my head, but if i think of something, I'll let you know :) 10:03 Bond em7 lol, go ahead Lissy ok Alyssa 10:04 Lissyboo What I was thinking in short is having a hat sorting ceremony for 2020 (when me lyss rabbit and red are making some) and not allowing newbies tp make characters besides adults past third year 10:05 Bond em7 I like the ideas of no new users making older characters 10:06 Lissyboo Yay  :) 10:06 Bond em7 The problem with having a sorting ceremony is that people come all through the school year, so it's hard to do a single ceremony with each new user/character 10:06 Jiskran I think we'd need to check our active numbers in each year before we enforce that. 10:07 Bond em7 ..and we don't want to tell people "You can't make new characters unless it's the beginning of the year" "Sorry...you just joined our wiki, but you can't play for 2 months" 10:08 Lissyboo But for those who are made at the right time? They can makr characters whenever, but the people who make it at the beginning get a treat 10:08 Alyssa5582 I think what could be done is that, just before a year starts, we can collect all the students who would be starting hogwarts that year, and do it with them Maybe put a notice saying to send an owl to whoever is running it if you have a starting first year 10:08 Bond em7 Only 1st years, or any new students? 10:08 Lissyboo It would encourage more first years 10:09 Jiskran True. :) 10:09 Alyssa5582 And we would just take it from their sorting forums, Im assuming 10:09 Lissyboo Yep 10:09 Bond em7 I would ask S&S not to sort them, and the decisions made woud be based on the forum they created, yes So again, only 1st years, or any new student? 10:10 Alyssa5582 Firsts only, I think 10:10 Lissyboo I'm thinking just 1st 10:10 Bond em7 ok...I think we can make that work So, anything else? 10:11 Lissyboo New sorting forums - should that be discussed with red? 10:11 Bond em7 YEs I know she's been thinking about that wayway 10:12 Lissyboo Okay. That's all I got 10:12 Bond em7 Jisk, Alyssa...anything else, or are we good for now? 10:13 Alyssa5582 I have nothing 10:13 Bond em7 Ok...just a heads up I'll post notices and such Monday, and be away Tuesday-Friday for Christmas Going somewhere with no interent 10:13 Jiskran OK, have fun over Christmas! :D 10:13 Bond em7 Everyone like the plan and have something to think about/work on? 10:14 Alyssa5582 Yup :D 10:14 Lissyboo I'll try thinking up ideas for the forum's 10:14 Bond em7 If not when I post notices I can make a list of things that need to get done 10:14 Alyssa5582 Also, think I'll be gone from Monday onto Thursday 10:14 Bond em7 Ok. Jisk, Lissy you two going away or will be around? 10:15 Alyssa5582 I may still be around a tiny bit, but probably not much 10:15 Jiskran I'll be around. 10:15 Lissyboo I have to do chores so ill be gone for a few hours 10:15 Bond em7 I just meant over the holidays Just as long as someone's here? 10:15 Lissyboo Oh for the week Christmas and Christmas eve basically, but no 10:16 Jiskran I'll be around, I'm fairly certain. 10:16 Bond em7 Ok cool. Well I hope everyone has great holidays and I'll hopefully see ya'll before new years
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