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Hi all!

I don’t know if you were expecting a wiki-wide vote so soon of the back off the Ministry election but we (read: the bureaucrats) have a good enough reason to put this vote up for you all.

As you can tell from what the forum is called, this vote is concerned with adding a new title to the senior leadership of the Ministry. This will be wiki-canon and independent of the three senior leadership titles we do not use currently; Special Advisor for Elf Legislation, Exotic Symbol Analyst and Quill Control & Rune Translation.

The context behind this position is that we feel, after the events of the last four years IC, such a title would have the grounds to be created; especially after all of the candidates’ emphasis on unity and giving back to the half-breed community. So what’s the title, you may ask? The title we wish to add is the Special Advisor for Non-Wizard Beings and Half-Beings. Much like the title suggests, the person who holds this title will be advising the minister on all things to do with those classified as beings.

From the HP Wiki itself, the following are classed as beings; Wizards (hence the Non-Wizard section of the title), Giants, Goblins (inc. Dark Goblins, Pukwudgies, European Goblins), Vampires, Hags, House elves, Veelas and Werewolves (as people; the wiki states that their wolf form is a beast). Merpeople (Sirens, Selkies and Merrows) and Centaurs were offered the status but refused.

We additionally believe that, as there was a title for Elf Legislation and that was an ongoing issue during the time of the books, there would be all the reason for a title for the advising and protection of Beings and Half-Beings (exotics and half-breeds, by DARP terms) .

We have proposed the following three options;

  • Option One: The Special Advisor for Non-Wizard Beings and Half-Beings will be added to the senior Ministry leadership team. This means it will be collectively included with the likes of other titles such as Senior Undersecretary, Advisor to the Minister and Junior Assistant.
  • Option Two: The Special Advisor for Non-Wizard Beings and Half-Beings will become a senior leadership role in the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures. Whilst we believe this would be perceived as derogatory by Beings and Half-Beings, we understand that there’d still be a percentage of those IC who would vote this way and is thus viable to be included, even in an OOC sense.
  • Option Three: The Special Advisor for Non-Wizard Beings and Half-Beings will not become a title at all within the Ministry.

This vote is being cast OOC. The vote will be open for one week, closing on the 22nd November 2019 at 12 PM EST.

Thank-you!

MoniqueBrownCow Oli I saw it and I was like, oh! Brown Cow! Stunning! 12,029

Voting

Option 1 (+10)

  1. MoniqueBrownCow Oli I saw it and I was like, oh! Brown Cow! Stunning! 12,029

  2. — 반짝이는 별이던 니가 내 품에 안긴
  3. ACAspasiaSofiaBroken down, shamed and betrayed;came back a blade with no name ~Sofie
  4. — dayang masalanta
  5. TheGoodDeath (talk)
  6. TimeSigBeen through some bad shit, I should be a savage, who woulda thought it'd turn me to a sad bitch? TimeSig
  7. Love sought is good, but giv'n unsought is better. 16:49, November 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. {{User:Jay Sea/sig}}
  9. MoniqueHeart Brocky The Heart may be leaving right now, but it's not gone it's still beating full of love. 12,268

  10. Mamamoo  is coming back for you~

Option 2

Option 3 (+0)

Comments

I figured I'd put this here but, naturally, the list of who falls under the term of 'Being' and 'Half-Being' will include those the wiki has created such as part-Nymphs, half-leprechauns and, if we have a reason enough to believe so, half-Sirens.

MoniqueBrownCow Oli I saw it and I was like, oh! Brown Cow! Stunning! 12,029

So... I feel like choosing option one ultimately makes this position temporary. The effects of the Fitzgerald administration wouldn't last forever. If we use option 2, while I can understand it would piss off certain groups of IC people, this isn't an IC vote, and I believe option 2 makes the position more permanent. The position could start out senior, at the Minister's request, and then become part of the DRCMAC again when it makes more sense, IC. Thoughts? Love sought is good, but giv'n unsought is better. 16:10, November 16, 2019 (UTC)
Ultimately, the position is going to be a permanent one regardless of where it is placed. Whilst we used the Fitzgerald Ministry as the catalyst for creating this role, IC there has been prejudice against half-breeds (and, through association, beings themselves that're non-Wizard) for at least ten years. I do believe Bailey's Ministry from 2030-2034 indicated the start of this prejudice. In short, this issue hasn't been perpetrated in the past four years of the Fitzgerald Ministry but rather something that has been bubbling for at least a decade IC. Whilst looking for more spots in the Ministry, I had come across the Special Advisor for Elf Legislation. Given that the rights of elves was a consistent theme within the books and had been given a senior leadership title independent of the DRCMAC as the books clearly define what is a beast and what is a being, I applied the same thought process to Beings and Half-Beings. Had the books not made it clear that a Being and a Beast are different, that positions concerning rights for beings are independent of the DRCMAC given (I imagine) the recognised intelligence of Beings, and that we as a wiki have had IC prejudice against Beings and Half-Beings for the past 10 years, the DRCMAC would be the logical place to go. Also, IC, I don't think it'd make sense for one Ministry to make this title and further recognise Beings as separate from Beasts and then the next (or even the same) to devolve the title and place Beings and Half-Beings under the umbrella of Magical Beasts; something that was seen as derogatory back in the 1990s canon-wise. If we had another minister like Alistair then by all means it'd make sense but political-charged expansions are being given a break for a while.
MoniqueBrownCow Oli I saw it and I was like, oh! Brown Cow! Stunning! 12,029

Ah, I didn't realize that the canon counterpart you based it on was Ministerial Senior Staff. That makes more sense then. Thanks! Love sought is good, but giv'n unsought is better. 16:48, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

Results

With ten people voting for Option One, a new position in the senior leadership team will be permanently created with the title itself being the Special Advisor for Non-Wizard Beings and Half-Beings.

MoniqueBrownCow Oli I saw it and I was like, oh! Brown Cow! Stunning! 12,029

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